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According to Thesaurus: com·pre·hen·sive [kòmprə hénssiv] adj 1. inclusive: covering many things or a wide area. "a comprehensive survey of public opinion". Wouldn't it be nice if dictator Herrmann followed through like the example phrase used in this definition? PBULIC OPINION--- Two words that she has already ignored by the results of the referendum vote. Many may find it strange that Louie Sharp and Dan Field made trivial objections but failed to step up and run as trustees with Herrmann. What's that all about? Please show your concern by attending the objection Hearing at the village hall Monday Jan 14, 7pm. Take a good look at the people who will be deciding the fate of the only opposition to Herrmann's slate. You may want to wear a mask----- the stench will be unbearable. Good Luck For The People. The residents should start their own "slate" at the meeting-- "For Amrich's Candidates" Charlie Amrich for Mayor Mark Beeson for Trustee Keith Johns for Trustee Tony Sciarrone for Trustee Teresa Ponio for Clerk For The People of Island Lake
who's word is "comprehensive"? is this 'comprehensive', as in "comprehensive immigration reform"? as in 'we will bypass existing laws and make up new, more politically popular at the moment' laws? who's word is this - is it the webmasters?
The word comprehensive came from the agenda item incorporating this plan into the existing Comprehensive plan. Is that incorrect? Is this not now part of the revised comprehensive plan?
From Dec 13 agenda
4. Approval of Ordinance 1458-12 Amending the Village of Island Lake Comprehensive Plan to include the Illinois Route 176 Commercial Areas Master Plan
No laker. It's a word that your "friends" have concocted in their exhoritant money wasting scheme. I have to admit that you have been making more sense lately.
Debbie has a master plan, all right! It is to run this village into the ground and then blame it on everyone else! Take a drive around town and think about how she has had a master plan for the whole time she has been in office! See all that new business? See all those freshly paved roads? See all those new programs the village is offering the residents? See all those happy village workers that just love working for Debbie? Yeah...I do not either!
This actually is a great plan but like the path of her new village hall, it is not viable at this time. Is Debbie living in a make believe world? Maybe she is having flashbacks to when she was a child. She sees Island Lake as her dollhouse and Ancel/Glink are her parents. She constantly pesters them to buy more things and doesn't care where the money will come from.
LAKER: THE word Comprehensive came from the agenda item on the December 13, 2012 agenda. I will paste below to refresh your memory. I do not make up words. Is this not a revised Comprehensive plan to include this portion to it?
4. Approval of Ordinance 1458-12 Amending the Village of Island Lake Comprehensive Plan to include the Illinois Route 176 Commercial Areas Master Plan
Macchu: A great plan? to develop commercial property on our existing parks? Swap a nice park location for what? some marsh land? I can't take my grand kids to play on the swings and slides in a marsh land or a gravel pit. The open spaces and parks and what used to be a nice lake is what attracted me to move here to retire and have my grand kids come visit.
I am sorry but every time I see something about Herrman's pet project, it only screams financial irresponsibility louder and louder.
Is she really so oblivious that the continued push for this temple to her vanity is only providing more and more evidence for a case to be turned over to the Director of Insurance for the suspension if not revocation of her Producer's License in the state of Illinois? Or is she that well off that losing her business and current primary income source wouldn't matter?
My main concern with the revised plan is that they added language that would allow the village to take public park space or open land space for public use to become victim to a land swap even if obtained from grants.
Perhaps a developer wants to make part of Veterans park at the west end a commercial space and offers to create an equal space somewhere else in town. It could be in a new subdivision. So people who haven't even thought of moving here yet will get a park or openspace while the existing residents will have theirs taken away. Look at how they didn't ask if we are willing to give up Water tower park. Will those new residents get their park space taken away as progress moves past their homes for the next peveloper with power, money and influence over the board at that time looking for added revenue. When and how will park space stay park space.
Next then comes the wetlands. Partially fill one in and help preserve another one somewhere else in town. Buy a house with a natural view and later find a proposed commercial development in the works. It will all be about the money for the coffers. Take from the old and give to the new.
I'm all for progress as long as they don't violate the natural rights of existing residents. Use the available land you have and stay inside the lines. Don't take our parks, Don't fill in our wetlands, and Don't use eminent domain laws to take homes so you can build a restuarant on the lake.
I guess it comes down to the fact that you never really get to own what you think is yours. Some level of government will tell you it's for the common good and has to be this way, so please move out by this date so the heavy equipment can start to break ground.
I'd like to thank the Blogmaster for posting the plan so we could all see it and save those page images for future reference "without having to crawl to Potter", as it were.
Looking over the various maps and legends myself, I found myself having similar huh!-type moments.
I see all kinds of issues presented, not the least of which include myriad zoning, flood plain, property grants, resident resistance, Route 176 easements, etc., on many recommendations.
Whether they need, or feel the need to in any way formally endorse the Plan, the good news is that the Plan itself does not short-circuit any of the necessary formal processes, hearings and meetings required. But at the same time, I can't help but feel that buried within this plan for the future, there are at least few nuggets that The Herd is willing to purse as soon and as quickly as possible - even if in spite of, or to make up for; their resounding electoral loss on the proposed new village hall. And then they'll use "The Plan" as justification for their actions.
And that is a scary thought. This is The Herd that no longer does business within the public venue Committee structure that is required to report out to the Committee of the Whole - but is The Herd that sweeps everything into Executive Session these days. I believe the only reason they FINALLY held public meetings on the village hall at all was because politically, they no longer had any choice.
If you look at any and all of the changes proposed in the Comprehensive Plan, almost all of them could potentially require legal action or litigation. Thus encouraging any and all such business to once again, be swept into Executive Session, and allows them their desire - to have as much as possible be "flying under the radar" at all times. Which is WRONG.
What The Herd members either fail to realize, or willingly ignore? Is that yes, ACTUAL litigation needs be discussed in Executive Session. On the other hand, the potential for litigation IS NOT license to do so. At least, and until it goes "nuclear", none of this has any business being held in Executive Session.
If what The Herd has done, or proposes to do, in our names; is so fraught with legal peril? That it can't even be discussed publicly? Then how sure are we that what they're all about is actually in our best interests in the first place? This is "Progress"? Really?
There is nothing wrong with telling us all what exactly are the specific items being discussed in Executive Session. But they won't - because allowing that, they'd be demonstrating how incompetent they all are in the first place. Yep, the polity's interests takes a back seat to politics.
In the past 25+ years I've seen two Comprehensive Plans. As of yet, nothing, except Walnut Glen, but nothing along the retail corridor has changed. That is, except for the many empty store fronts.
Isn't it the job of the chairman of economic development to to entice retail development aside from lining their own pockets or those of their friends who are contracted to do business with the Village?
look no further than lake zurich to see an unfufilled pipe dream. How has their downtown redevelopement gone? And I'm quite sure that their financial resourses are far greater than ours.
Hey Freddy, what the heck ya been doin? Sittin on your thumbs? Just kiddin' but seriously how about some new stuff. Heaven knows theres tons of crap to report. Since I got tos'd from the dh I decided to put my comment on this old article. I'll be around for 48 hours. It seems that they can run me like a dog but when I tell the truth about herrmann she gets me tossed. wee wee wee. Heres my toss: "To carry your thoughts a bit further DMO. It is told that Herrmann moved out of her Westridge Mall unit owing 3 months rent without giving notice to the landlord. She removed interior doors and left the place trashed to say the least. This is the way she treated a person who she had no problem selling a multi thousand dollar building insurance policy to. The policy is still active and we will assist the proper persons in notifying the Farmers Insurance branch office to report her treatment of clients. You are just so used to using people now aren't you Mayor Herrmann? You have trained your hand appointed Mcorkle to operate under the same methods of administration. Shame on both of you."
According to Thesaurus:
ReplyDeletecom·pre·hen·sive [kòmprə hénssiv]
adj
1. inclusive: covering many things or a wide area. "a comprehensive survey of public opinion".
Wouldn't it be nice if dictator Herrmann followed through like the example phrase used in this definition?
PBULIC OPINION--- Two words that she has already ignored by the results of the referendum vote.
Many may find it strange that Louie Sharp and Dan Field made trivial objections but failed to step up and run as trustees with Herrmann.
What's that all about?
Please show your concern by attending the objection Hearing at the village hall Monday Jan 14, 7pm. Take a good look at the people who will be deciding the fate of the only opposition to Herrmann's slate.
You may want to wear a mask----- the stench will be unbearable.
Good Luck For The People.
The residents should start their own "slate" at the meeting-- "For Amrich's Candidates"
Charlie Amrich for Mayor
Mark Beeson for Trustee
Keith Johns for Trustee
Tony Sciarrone for Trustee
Teresa Ponio for Clerk
For The People of Island Lake
who's word is "comprehensive"?
ReplyDeleteis this 'comprehensive', as in "comprehensive immigration reform"?
as in 'we will bypass existing laws and make up new, more politically popular at the moment' laws?
who's word is this - is it the webmasters?
The word comprehensive came from the agenda item incorporating this plan into the existing Comprehensive plan. Is that incorrect? Is this not now part of the revised comprehensive plan?
DeleteFrom Dec 13 agenda
4. Approval of Ordinance 1458-12 Amending the Village of Island Lake Comprehensive Plan to include the Illinois Route 176 Commercial Areas Master Plan
No laker. It's a word that your "friends" have concocted in their exhoritant money wasting scheme.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit that you have been making more sense lately.
Debbie has a master plan, all right! It is to run this village into the ground and then blame it on everyone else! Take a drive around town and think about how she has had a master plan for the whole time she has been in office! See all that new business? See all those freshly paved roads? See all those new programs the village is offering the residents? See all those happy village workers that just love working for Debbie? Yeah...I do not either!
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone recall what this lovely pipe dream cost us?
ReplyDeleteThis actually is a great plan but like the path of her new village hall, it is not viable at this time.
ReplyDeleteIs Debbie living in a make believe world?
Maybe she is having flashbacks to when she was a child. She sees Island Lake as her dollhouse and Ancel/Glink are her parents. She constantly pesters them to buy more things and doesn't care where the money will come from.
In that case Machu, this is more like Falcon Crest, and she's Jane Wyman? Or is she more like Joan Crawford?
ReplyDeleteLAKER:
ReplyDeleteTHE word Comprehensive came from the agenda item on the December 13, 2012 agenda. I will paste below to refresh your memory. I do not make up words. Is this not a revised Comprehensive plan to include this portion to it?
4. Approval of Ordinance 1458-12 Amending the Village of Island Lake Comprehensive Plan to include the Illinois Route 176 Commercial Areas Master Plan
Macchu: A great plan? to develop commercial property on our existing parks? Swap a nice park location for what? some marsh land? I can't take my grand kids to play on the swings and slides in a marsh land or a gravel pit. The open spaces and parks and what used to be a nice lake is what attracted me to move here to retire and have my grand kids come visit.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry but every time I see something about Herrman's pet project, it only screams financial irresponsibility louder and louder.
ReplyDeleteIs she really so oblivious that the continued push for this temple to her vanity is only providing more and more evidence for a case to be turned over to the Director of Insurance for the suspension if not revocation of her Producer's License in the state of Illinois? Or is she that well off that losing her business and current primary income source wouldn't matter?
My main concern with the revised plan is that they added language that would allow the village to take public park space or open land space for public use to become victim to a land swap even if obtained from grants.
ReplyDeletePerhaps a developer wants to make part of Veterans park at the west end a commercial space and offers to create an equal space somewhere else in town. It could be in a new subdivision. So people who haven't even thought of moving here yet will get a park or openspace while the existing residents will have theirs taken away. Look at how they didn't ask if we are willing to give up Water tower park. Will those new residents get their park space taken away as progress moves past their homes for the next peveloper with power, money and influence over the board at that time looking for added revenue. When and how will park space stay park space.
Next then comes the wetlands. Partially fill one in and help preserve another one somewhere else in town. Buy a house with a natural view and later find a proposed commercial development in the works. It will all be about the money for the coffers. Take from the old and give to the new.
I'm all for progress as long as they don't violate the natural rights of existing residents. Use the available land you have and stay inside the lines. Don't take our parks, Don't fill in our wetlands, and Don't use eminent domain laws to take homes so you can build a restuarant on the lake.
I guess it comes down to the fact that you never really get to own what you think is yours. Some level of government will tell you it's for the common good and has to be this way, so please move out by this date so the heavy equipment can start to break ground.
ReplyDeleteWell stated, Mark -
I'd like to thank the Blogmaster for posting the plan so we could all see it and save those page images for future reference "without having to crawl to Potter", as it were.
Looking over the various maps and legends myself, I found myself having similar huh!-type moments.
I see all kinds of issues presented, not the least of which include myriad zoning, flood plain, property grants, resident resistance, Route 176 easements, etc., on many recommendations.
Whether they need, or feel the need to in any way formally endorse the Plan, the good news is that the Plan itself does not short-circuit any of the necessary formal processes, hearings and meetings required. But at the same time, I can't help but feel that buried within this plan for the future, there are at least few nuggets that The Herd is willing to purse as soon and as quickly as possible - even if in spite of, or to make up for; their resounding electoral loss on the proposed new village hall. And then they'll use "The Plan" as justification for their actions.
And that is a scary thought. This is The Herd that no longer does business within the public venue Committee structure that is required to report out to the Committee of the Whole - but is The Herd that sweeps everything into Executive Session these days. I believe the only reason they FINALLY held public meetings on the village hall at all was because politically, they no longer had any choice.
If you look at any and all of the changes proposed in the Comprehensive Plan, almost all of them could potentially require legal action or litigation. Thus encouraging any and all such business to once again, be swept into Executive Session, and allows them their desire - to have as much as possible be "flying under the radar" at all times. Which is WRONG.
What The Herd members either fail to realize, or willingly ignore? Is that yes, ACTUAL litigation needs be discussed in Executive Session. On the other hand, the potential for litigation IS NOT license to do so. At least, and until it goes "nuclear", none of this has any business being held in Executive Session.
If what The Herd has done, or proposes to do, in our names; is so fraught with legal peril? That it can't even be discussed publicly? Then how sure are we that what they're all about is actually in our best interests in the first place? This is "Progress"? Really?
There is nothing wrong with telling us all what exactly are the specific items being discussed in Executive Session. But they won't - because allowing that, they'd be demonstrating how incompetent they all are in the first place. Yep, the polity's interests takes a back seat to politics.
In the past 25+ years I've seen two Comprehensive Plans. As of yet, nothing, except Walnut Glen, but nothing along the retail corridor has changed. That is, except for the many empty store fronts.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it the job of the chairman of economic development to to entice retail development aside from lining their own pockets or those of their friends who are contracted to do business with the Village?
We wouldn't know George - all that probably happens in Executive Session as well.....
Deletelook no further than lake zurich to see an unfufilled pipe dream. How has their downtown redevelopement gone? And I'm quite sure that their financial resourses are far greater than ours.
ReplyDeleteHey Freddy, what the heck ya been doin? Sittin on your thumbs? Just kiddin' but seriously how about some new stuff.
ReplyDeleteHeaven knows theres tons of crap to report.
Since I got tos'd from the dh I decided to put my comment on this old article. I'll be around for 48 hours.
It seems that they can run me like a dog but when I tell the truth about herrmann she gets me tossed. wee wee wee.
Heres my toss:
"To carry your thoughts a bit further DMO. It is told that Herrmann moved out of her Westridge Mall unit owing 3 months rent without giving notice to the landlord. She removed interior doors and left the place trashed to say the least. This is the way she treated a person who she had no problem selling a multi thousand dollar building insurance policy to. The policy is still active and we will assist the proper persons in notifying the Farmers Insurance branch office to report her treatment of clients. You are just so used to using people now aren't you Mayor Herrmann? You have trained your hand appointed Mcorkle to operate under the same methods of administration. Shame on both of you."
Yah, Freddy. What's the holdup?
ReplyDelete